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		<title>By: beel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent Post.

Here are my thoughts, for what they&#039;re worth...

1) regarding the bankruptcy thing, this is, to me, the most important message to get out there to Joe Sixpack and Jane Winebox: This issue isn&#039;t about yucky poor people that your kids don&#039;t go to school with the children of, or homeless people that you step over on the sidewalk.  This issue is about YOU. Or at least the alternative you that falls through a medical trapdoor and suddenly is in an ENTIRELY different demographic, almost a different universe, than you&#039;re in right now. There, but for one slip of medical fate, go I. Or you. Or any of us. I know this is obvious to any of us who can add two and two and get four, but someone needs to connect the dots for the other 95% of the population.

2) regarding health expenditure. I knew that one, but what I don&#039;t yet get is how we can actually SAVE money doing this, other than to either make up future numbers and show a savings relative to them, or semi-nationalize healthcare, which will have a huge distribution impact. I mean, if we create a private option and offer it up without profit, then how can we be sure that 1) it actually is a better option, what with the gubmint involved and all, and 2) the current healthcare and insurance industry doesn&#039;t entirely collapse as a result. I don&#039;t mind them fading out quietly, going the way of the dodo-bird, what have you, but with the economy on a sort of tenuous ground, sudden moves, sudden changes... could be a domino effect of some sort. Just want to watch out for the unintended consequences.

3) No arguments there. With one exception: I find that, with internal medicine, we (as a people, as a culture) need to get out of the habit of prescribing and taking pills for everything. We get into this endless loop:
&quot;Doctor says I need to eat less and exercise more, and quit smoking&quot;
&quot;So what did you say?&quot;
&quot;I said Hell No!&quot;
&quot;So what did he do?&quot;
&quot;He gave me a pill. With my prescription benefit, it&#039;s only $5/month.&quot;

My point here is that we need to utilize health care less, in general, by focusing on preventive care, wellness, etc. Health care utilization isn&#039;t necessarily a good metric. How do we measure how well we&#039;re successfully AVOIDING the Doctor? And then how do we split that out to  &quot;because I can&#039;t afford it&quot; and &quot;because I&#039;m effectively staying healthy on my own&quot;? It&#039;s important to measure and rely on outcomes, but we shouldn&#039;t just measure and rely on the ones that are easiest to measure.

4) Let&#039;s not set the bar too low, then, eh? I mean, how will we guarantee that we&#039;re controlling or decreasing costs, and at the same time improving delivery? I&#039;ve never seen a system so bad that we can&#039;t make it a little, or even a lot, worse. Let&#039;s watch out for that too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Post.</p>
<p>Here are my thoughts, for what they&#8217;re worth&#8230;</p>
<p>1) regarding the bankruptcy thing, this is, to me, the most important message to get out there to Joe Sixpack and Jane Winebox: This issue isn&#8217;t about yucky poor people that your kids don&#8217;t go to school with the children of, or homeless people that you step over on the sidewalk.  This issue is about YOU. Or at least the alternative you that falls through a medical trapdoor and suddenly is in an ENTIRELY different demographic, almost a different universe, than you&#8217;re in right now. There, but for one slip of medical fate, go I. Or you. Or any of us. I know this is obvious to any of us who can add two and two and get four, but someone needs to connect the dots for the other 95% of the population.</p>
<p>2) regarding health expenditure. I knew that one, but what I don&#8217;t yet get is how we can actually SAVE money doing this, other than to either make up future numbers and show a savings relative to them, or semi-nationalize healthcare, which will have a huge distribution impact. I mean, if we create a private option and offer it up without profit, then how can we be sure that 1) it actually is a better option, what with the gubmint involved and all, and 2) the current healthcare and insurance industry doesn&#8217;t entirely collapse as a result. I don&#8217;t mind them fading out quietly, going the way of the dodo-bird, what have you, but with the economy on a sort of tenuous ground, sudden moves, sudden changes&#8230; could be a domino effect of some sort. Just want to watch out for the unintended consequences.</p>
<p>3) No arguments there. With one exception: I find that, with internal medicine, we (as a people, as a culture) need to get out of the habit of prescribing and taking pills for everything. We get into this endless loop:<br />
&#8220;Doctor says I need to eat less and exercise more, and quit smoking&#8221;<br />
&#8220;So what did you say?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I said Hell No!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;So what did he do?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;He gave me a pill. With my prescription benefit, it&#8217;s only $5/month.&#8221;</p>
<p>My point here is that we need to utilize health care less, in general, by focusing on preventive care, wellness, etc. Health care utilization isn&#8217;t necessarily a good metric. How do we measure how well we&#8217;re successfully AVOIDING the Doctor? And then how do we split that out to  &#8220;because I can&#8217;t afford it&#8221; and &#8220;because I&#8217;m effectively staying healthy on my own&#8221;? It&#8217;s important to measure and rely on outcomes, but we shouldn&#8217;t just measure and rely on the ones that are easiest to measure.</p>
<p>4) Let&#8217;s not set the bar too low, then, eh? I mean, how will we guarantee that we&#8217;re controlling or decreasing costs, and at the same time improving delivery? I&#8217;ve never seen a system so bad that we can&#8217;t make it a little, or even a lot, worse. Let&#8217;s watch out for that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Aunt Bobbie Sue</title>
		<link>http://forkinme.org/life/?p=827&#038;cpage=1#comment-5041</link>
		<dc:creator>Aunt Bobbie Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got an email invitation to check out a book and loved the email so much I checked out the author. IMHO, he&#039;s worth reading: http://www.andynowicki.blogspot.com/

He reminds me of you, Drew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got an email invitation to check out a book and loved the email so much I checked out the author. IMHO, he&#8217;s worth reading: <a href="http://www.andynowicki.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.andynowicki.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>He reminds me of you, Drew.</p>
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